good, man. I'm feeling real good.
excited The Great Migration is finally dropping?
man. It's years in the making. Some of the material may be new, but it's
all about living and experiencing life. They say an artist has his whole
life to make his first album, that's what it feels like. It's been years
in the making.
happy with how the album came together?
As far as I could say, I'm definitely happy with it. There is always a
little bit of extra stuff that comes in the way when you deal with a label,
but I feel like this is pretty close. I'm carrying the weight on this
album as far as rapping as well. I got into producing so I could make
stuff for myself. Over the years, you get better and now I'm at the point
where I'm happy with my flow, delivery, and lyrics.
get everything you wanted for it?
I could have put maybe one or two more songs on there, but we're going
to save them for the future. They'll still get heard.
be hard for rappers known primarily as producers to be taken seriously
as rappers. Are you experiencing that?
because I've always had words. I've always had words. I was always a writer,
so the production and the emceeing go hand-in-hand to me. I was looking
for something to spread my words on that was my own. Once I started producing,
I started seeing where my words should go. It was pretty plain to me it
communicate better with your words or beats?
depends who you talk to. I know a lot of fans like the beats better, but
I think it's my words. I think it's harder to come across with something
you're writing as opposed to a beat. The notes are already on the keyboard,
but you have to start from scratch with writing.
songs with Timbo King and Killa Sin recorded in studio?
I have my
Black Day in July studio in Detroit. I just keep working and keep working
in here. I don't like to sit down and say, "I need a song about the
ladies." Whatever I'm feeling that day, I like to get it out. I'm
more of a natural person. Whatever I sat down and felt like writing, that's
what came out. I turned in thirty songs and we whittled it down, figured
out who we wanted, and went about it. Dreddy was a big key in getting
people on it.
Bronzemen" is crazy. How is it working with Killa Sin?
with Killa Sin for Cilvaringz' album. We vibed back then. He's a real
cool dude nad very skillful. I wasn't there when he recorded his verse
on this one, but I've worked with Sin before. It's a pleasure.
you title your album The Great Migration?
the Great Migration where blacks from the South came North to industrial
areas looking for work. My family is from Virginia. I parallel that to
my life. I've been through a lot of obstacles and struggles, so that's
my great migration, especially to get to this point.
How important has Dreddy Kruger been to your career?
He got me
right here. I got into Wu through Cilvaringz. He helped me connect with
RZA. At that point, you go around searching for people to take your beats.
I'd be up in 36 and I ended up running into Dreddy and Masta Killa in
there. We sat down and listened to beats and when the Think Differently
album came out, he reached out to me for that. That got a lot of sunlight
for me. People were reaching out after that. I was putting out singles
consistently because I was trying to make it through school. When Dreddy
came through, it was a blessing. Dreddy was key. He got me in stores and
he really helped me on the business side.
you meet Cilvaringz on the internet?
Yeah. I think
it was like '96 or '97. I had an album out back then with me and my brother,
it was called The Unknown. I've always been into hip-hop. We created that
album and I was shopping it around on the internet. I saw Cilvaringz email
and Wu-Tang was my favorite group. I emailed him. He checked out my snippets
on the site and we started communicating back-and-forth. He helped me
get in contact with RZA and from there it was on.
your first meeting with RZA?
I was actually
in 36 Chambers because I had gone out there to see if I could get some
work. A couple Wu individuals were there recording. I went in there and
they were playing my beats. People were coming in and people were going
out. RZA, GZA, and Masta Killa came in. I was like, "Oh shit!"
As an unsigned, hungry artist, that's your opportunity. They came in and
were playing my beats over the speakers. RZA was nodding his head, so
I was like, "He's feeling it." He was busy the whole night doing
this, that, and the other. I was just waiting for my chance to holler
at him. I waited until 4am. They were about to go to the club. I had to
take my chance with him there because I might not see him again. We went
in a room and I played him "Blow Gun," and he said, "I
want you to join the Wu-Elements." It was definitely a dream come
you do when you were asked that?
It was definitely
crazy. After talking to RZA, I walked back to the YMCA where I was staying.
I was just going crazy. I was excited. I couldn't believe it. After you
get signed, you don't even get work right away. I was signed, but what's
next? It was about patience waiting for work to come along. I went out
for the summer for Birth of a Prince. That was my first shit. It felt
it feel seeing your credits in RZA's Birth of a Prince?
It was crazy.
I got this thing where I don't like a lot of early copies. I like to go
in the store and see it. I was excited when I saw it. I felt like I had
finally gotten to the point I needed to get to.
was the craziest experience you had recording this album?
my album, I didn't have a label and I was going to just knock the whole
thing out and start approaching labels. Then Dreddy came in with the Think
Differently situation. After years and years of hard work, the label situation
came easy for me. I'm not saying it was an overnight success, but I thought
it would be harder to obtain that. Through the years, I was working and
thinking about how I would get a label to put it out. I have the production
deal with Wu-Tang, but I didn't know how I would get the album heard.
Babygrande came through and I saw that as destiny.
involved in the making of The Great Migration?
over the years I've talked to RZA and consulted with him. Back in the
day when I got put on Wu-Elements, he heard my song "Blow Gun."
I remember sitting down talking to him at 36 and he said a lot of the
lyrics on there, he understands them, but he didn't know how it would
reach the public. I tried to take a different approach as to how I wrote
my lyrics. They were more basic, but they had deeper meanings. It wouldn't
be too complex, but it was also deep. I got that from RZA.
have Masta Killa's "Bells" single. Are you happy with how that
song is doing right now?
It's beautiful. It's a pleasure. Before I even started, Wu-Tang was my
favorite. My first plan was I just wanted to do one song with the brothers
from Wu. It went further than that. (laughs)
it working with Masta Killa?
When I first met Masta Killa, he has a peaceful aura about him. He gives
you a peaceful feeling. Working with Masta Killa is lovely. We've been
talking about doing a whole album together. Hopefully we can just get
in the studio and build.
the chances of that album happening?
I mean, I
hope it happens. I'll definitely reach out to him once I get everything
in order. I'm cool with Devin at Nature Sounds as well, so it will pop
off hopefully. We'll see.
been doing any work for the Wu-Tang album?
done anything on it. I think RZA's going to take care of that album.
see that album happening soon?
I have no
idea. I know the brothers are always working. It might take a little while,
but we should see it. I don't know a lot about it yet.
are you using right now?
I stick with
my old shit, the ASR-10. I started with that and I still fuck with it.
With the ASR, I've also gotten on some of the computer programs like Adobe
Audition. My man from Canada put me on to Reason. I mess with Reason a
little bit, but Pro Tools is my shit. I might rent a Triton and keep it
moving. I stick with the ASR. I like the gritty sound it has.
ever worry about people saying your sound is "too Wu"?
I take it a couple different ways. RZA's a legend, so if you compare me
to him, that's a blessing right off the bat. I do have a lot of Wu-sounding
stuff, but if someone was to sit down and listen to a CD of fifty of my
beats, they would hear a lot of stuff that doesn't sound like Wu. It will
come out as I drop more projects. I have a diverse sound. People are going
to see it and they'll respect that. I'm throwing a lot of things in the
pot, but I'm Wu, so I might have a Wu sound.
improve your sound?
I never sat
down and made beats with him. For Birth of a Prince, he showed me some
new sounds and techniques. I really just cut up samples. The thing I picked
up from RZA and listening to him is the way he manipulates them and how
he speeds them up. I've never heard people speed up samples, but all in
all, it makes sense to speed up a sample when you're trying to make a
hip-hop song. That's what I got from RZA as well as help with the lyrics
and coming to an understanding of saying something and people understanding
what you're saying.
up with the 7 Wisemen today?
We have about three or four more songs to do for the album. This album
is crazy. We've been getting a real good response with it. Everybody is
loving it. I'm excited about this album. We're close to being done. It's
definitely got some classics on there. It's going to hit hard. Everybody's
working and staying busy. There's really four of us on the Wisemen album.
Illadayz got in a car accident, so he's trying to recuperate so he'll
be on the next album. The Wisemen album is sick, period. They're also
on The Great Migration.
going to do more work with Afu-Ra in the future?
He still owes me money for a beat I gave him. I've been trying to contact
him and I haven't heard back. If you're reading this, you owe me a little
find your first album The Unknown today?
of hard to find. Of course we still have the master, but we haven't pressed
any copies. You might be able to download it. Me and Kevlaar thought about
doing a new version and update it, but that's maybe for later on down
the line to throw out as something extra. We'll see what happens.
you feel hearing that album today?
what we were trying to do, I appreciate the sound, but the delivery is
fucked up. I feel like we were still in training. It doesn't excite me,
but it's a piece of our history. It's like preseason.
ready for the majors now?
I'm ready. I'm ready for whatever happens. I would love to take care of
my family off of the music. I've done shows and I've been out there before.
I like to make sure my fans know I love them.
see yourself in competition with other Wu producers like Mathematics?
all family, so I don't compete with nobody. I'm the last Wu-Element who's
been signed on. My respect to 4th Disciple, Tru Master, RZA, and Mathematics,
if it wasn't for them, there's no me. That's family. We're competing with
all these other producers out here that we're going to take care of. That's
next for Bronze Nazareth?
to get the 7 Wisemen album out, stay working with my Wu brothers, and
just stay working. I just want to stay busy. I made a couple of songs
for my next album already. The beats are crazy for that.
of dropping a producer album?
I would love
to do that. If the right opportunity comes across, I would love to do
that. The one thing is, though, with my beats, is that I'm a picky cat.
you want to say to everyone?
I know that
in the past people have appreciated my beats more than my lyrics, but
on this album, some of my lyrics might go past you, but if you rewind
my lyrics, you'll see that I'm lyrically-crazy. I'm not a conceited cat,
but I'm confident. I have some deep shit on there. I've lived a life where
I've been through things and seen things. I just want people to respect
the lyrics on this. The beats are going to be there. The beats are crazy
already. Pay attention to the lyrics. I love y'all for supporting.
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