you guys doing?
I'm down in Florida chilling for a spell. Just enjoying the weather, working
on some music, and meeting some people.
when did Flagrant come together?
came together about four years ago. Me and another cat I fuck with, Pete
Childs, came together and Flame (another member) found out about through
a family member. We all came together. Right now, Flame and I have been
going hard at it. We went from a duo to a trio to a duo.
you see the chemistry change with the revolving door of members?
change too much. Flame fits right in. I knew from when we first met that
we would have good chemistry.
you guys different from each other?
of an old-head. I speak from the street perspective of an O.G. in a sense.
He's more young and ready to go at it, and I'd rather lay back and kick
some shit. It's a good blend. When you need to hear that shit that makes
you think, don't get me wrong, he's got that too, but when you want to
hear that shit that gets you hyped, he's got that. We're covering everything.
I'm not a battle rapper. I can, but I would rather not do that. Flame
can get at anyone.
Yeah. Flame tore it down at Fight Klub. They're still asking us to come
back up there. He battled C'Leon from Philly and they went at it for three
or four rounds and had a draw. It was real aggressive. There was a lot
of energy. It was crazy.
being 26 and Flame being 19, do you find yourselves in two different places?
It's like a big brother/little brother situation. I lead and he follows.
It's cool. We never really bump heads on anything. If I want to do something
that he doesn't, I'll just do it solo, and vice versa.
hard coming from Buffalo?
to fight for your respect. If you're not from New York City, people aren't
really trying to check for you. The music speaks for itself. The response
has been crazy.
the scene in Buffalo?
what kind of shit you're talking about! Everybody's rapping. As far as
exposure and all of that, it's not really there. That's what we're trying
to bring to the city. As far as all the street shit, that's there.
says that you teach "gangsta religion." Can you define that?
A lot of
people like to talk about shooting your gun, but I like to talk about
what you are going to do after you do that. I like to give you the whole
story and not emphasize one portion of it.
We come from a church background. We coined that term. Gangsters need
of your songs talk about sex, drugs, and violence though. Do you ever
worry about the consequences of that?
No. I pretty
much don't worry about it. With me, growing up, my parents did their job.
I heard that kind of music and I didn't feel I had to do what I heard.
If the parents do their job, it'll be all right. That's what's going on
out here. I talk about it, but there are a lot of other songs that we've
done to give you the other side of the story.
the kids out there without the right parental support?
I like Kanye for coming out with "Jesus Walks." When I can put
out a single, you'll definitely hear something like that. For every negative
song, you'll hear a positive song. There are songs out there for the kids,
too. All I can rap about is what I really know and try to give the listeners
every perspective possible.
We put a lot of street shit on the mixtape. If you go through the catalog,
there are a lot of other songs in there on a different vibe.
of the tracks I heard dealt with you trying to overcome obstacles. What
kind of obstacles is Flagrant facing in the game today?
obstacle right now is being patient. You still have to eat in the meantime.
Then you're waiting and going through all the politics and everything.
It can also be hard staying inspired. That's with everything in life.
you guys get down with The Unusual Suspects?
through our management. They were excited about how we were getting down
and they made it happen. They heard our joints and did six records for
it working with The Unusual Suspects?
us the joints and we laid them down. We did everything in Buffalo. We
weren't in the lab with them directly. This is the day of the e-mail.
You can do a whole album through e-mail.
you guys working on right now?
We have the
"Trafficking Part 2" coming out soon. We have some new producers
that we're working with. Flame is working on his solo project. We're working
on a joint with Slim Thug and Stat Quo. We just had our joints on HBO's
"Unscripted." It feels good to be embraced. People look at Buffalo
for the Bills, The Wings, and Rick James. This is an R&B town. There's
going to be a plethora of A&R's coming up here after Flagrant pops
of situation are you looking for?
label. There's some cats talking some good things, but there's some cheddar
cheese-face niggas too. Right now, there's only two sides to be on, Shady/Aftermath
or Def Jam. The East Coast doesn't have much of a presence right now besides
The Dips. You don't even hear much East Coast stuff on the rater. I'm
not a hater, I'm a congratulator. Life goes 360o, so it'll come around.
Everybody just has to stay in their zone. We're looking for Def Jam or
Interscope. Both of them have slots. If you look at any roster, it's time
for new talent. Not to knock any of the pioneers that paved the way, but
this is a youthful industry and it's time for some new blood and time
for some new cats to come out and be heard. It's a blessing that Flagrant
has been embraced. Everything happens for a reason. Some things didn't
happen and we could have been in some bad deals right now.
you want to say to everyone out there?
for Flagrant in '06. Thank you to everyone that's been supporting us.
information, go to myspace.com/flagrant-music