you doing Deck?
I'm a little
sick right now. Other than that, I'm feeling lovely.
Little Story" is a dope song. What was your inspiration for that?
I was overseas
and we have a lot of Wu Tang affiliates over there like Cilvaringz. He
actually did that beat. A lot of people think it was produced by RZA,
but Cilvaringz is a RZA student, so it's all good to me. I heard those
beats when I was over there, and it sounded like some crazy, overseas
Wu Tang. It sounds like some late '80's, early '90's music. I did some
Beastie Boys-call out on it. It wasn't supposed to be what it is now.
My DJ, DJ Storm, sent it out to a couple people. The next thing you know,
you're calling me and the single is everywhere. It turned out to be a
that people really want some new Inspectah Deck.
I did nine songs when I did "A Lil' Story." I had released a
joint called "My Style." Another was "Get Your Weight Up"
and another was "Make a Move." I released them sporadically
on the internet to see how they would do. So far, "My Style"
and "A Lil' Story" have gotten the best response. I got a mixtape
dropping soon and "A Lil' Story" is going to be on there with
like five or six new joints.
you looking to drop that?
I was supposed
to drop it today, but I was on the road for the Wu Tang tour. I'm trying
to get it out in the next couple of weeks. You're going to be seeing and
hearing about it in a small way. We're not trying to spend a million dollars
on this project.
the Wu Tang tour?
good when I'm with my team. When we're together, it's like Godzilla coming
to town. Buildings get knocked over. It was good to feel the love from
the fans and know that there is still some die-hard fans out there that
were 13 when they started listening to us and now they're 25. They're
still holding us down. It gives you that energy when they're singing every
song word-for-word with you. That makes you want to do it.
the chemistry without ODB?
It was definitely
different. That's what's missing in Wu Tang. I think that plays a part
in why it's hard to get an album together. Number one, nobody wants to
do some bullshit. We don't want to put an album out and have them treat
it like our past ones. I liked "Iron Flag," but I wasn't proud
of "The W." I wasn't proud of that. "Iron Flag" was
an up-to-date version of "36 Chambers" to me.
they have the microscope out on us. They're looking at the "W"
on "The W" cover wondering if it's authentic. I'm not here to
satisfy anyone. If it's from me to you, I definitely want you to be happy
with my shit, at least. Our shit is going to be different and dudes have
to accept and respect that. Accept the fact that Wu Tang is not going
to get everyday radio play.
on good terms throughout the tour?
Don't get it twisted, we were brothers before this music shit. It's all
family shit. Sometimes you may not speak to your brother because he pissed
you off, but we're family. The rap shit is different because brothers
have mouths to feed and each brother has a different situation. Some have
more kids than others and some have more property than others. But I know
niggas are real with each other and the rap shit comes secondary to us.
That's how we look at it. We never came in to be rap niggas. We told you
from the jump that we were going to be the new industry. Even if the rap
isn't going well, niggas still communicate, but we have different issues
going on in our lives. Some niggas like to go out there and front, but
we'll say, "I'm wounded right now. Let me get my blood circulating."
That's like me dropping this mixtape. It's going to prepare you for the
"Rebellion" album that I'm going to drop with RZA. It's just
nursing the wounds and coming back.
lot of MC's ever let you know that they're down.
I feel the
same way sometimes. I feel that I'm the greatest like Ali sometimes, but
I know in real life that I'm just one of many. When I say I'm nursing
the wounds, my whole issue with this rap shit is that I was never a rapper.
We came off the block, we hustled and put our money into the studio, and
we made an album about what we were doing every day. I'd see RZA and Rae
and we'd be spitting lines to each other while we were slanging them things.
Putting the album together was a blessing.
had a problem with contracts and hidden clauses. A nigga offers you publishing
and sends you a recording contract. There's silly shit and the lawyers
are in on it too. I went through a shiesty lawyer with my Loud deal. Then
Loud got dropped from BMG and Deck got lost in the shuffle with "Uncontrolled
Substance." That album got pushed back four times. I signed the deal
in '97 and the album dropped in '99. Meanwhile I got hit with marketing
and promotions clauses each time the album got delayed. I can't take the
blame for that shit because the album was done. I took three years off
spending my money on lawyers to get out of contracts. I'm not letting
anyone control me anymore. I'd rather not do music and do something else
instead of not getting my publishing and all that. That's why I went through
Koch for "The Movement." I did it through my company INS Productions
because I didn't want to sign as an artist anymore. Now I have Urban Icon
and I'm sitting on the sideline watching the game, getting some new moves,
just figuring out the next move. Now, I have my label and my group House
Gang. All that shit is secondary. I just have a renewed love for the game
right now. It's fun to rhyme again. The game is fucked up, but I found
the love within myself. I didn't have that for awhile, not that I lost
it. I just never tapped into it. That's discouraging. That's like Jordan
riding the bench. Jordan don't ride the bench. I know I can score in the
clutch and I'm not scared to be in that situation. Sometimes you have
to pass the rock or get traded to another team. That's how I felt with
the Loud situation. Not to mention, I was signed to Loud as an individual
and a group. That's a mistake I'll never make again. My shit goes back
and a nigga has scars. I'm bionic with new parts put on me.
feel comfortable with where you are now?
Dudes haven't really gotten a full dosage of me yet. They know me for
"bomb atomically" but they don't really know what I'm capable
of yet. I'm just getting myself in the right position and setting myself
guys record any new tracks while you were on tour?
the tour, I went to LA to do fifteen songs with RZA. Some of them have
Rae, GZA, and Masta Killa on them. I did some joints for Rae's album and
some songs with Ghost. I'm doing what I have to do. I'm going to do this
one more time and I'm going to come like Hannibal. Straight up.
to be monster. It's going to be monster. It's going to be 50% RZA-produced,
and the rest will be split up with different people. You might hear some
Dirty South and West Coast tracks on there. I'm keeping it raw. We're
keeping it hood and global.
hardcore Wu fans react hearing you on West Coast or Dirty South tracks?
to love it because my blade is going to be out. My shit is going to be
swinging too. They're going to be like, "This nigga is fucking up
a Dirty South track." Then I want you to hear me on a slow jam, then
an up-tempo song, then a basement Wu Tang track, then some knucklehead
shit. You're going to hear me touching all bases because I'm not just
one track. I've always told you about life, whether it was "Cold
World" or "Troubled Man." It doesn't matter wherever you
hear me at, I always tried to kick those rhymes to give you my vision.
That's what the people are going to get from me, regardless. You're going
to get real life from a first-person point of view. It's not my style
to do all the shit that's going on now. I've done mad shit in my life
and niggas talking about how I'm going to kill you and kidnap your kids.
They're cubic zirconiums, man. Look at my shit, my shit will tell you,
and it goes back ten years. It's nothing to be proud of, but my shit is
about real life. "I don't know why I chose to smoke cess/I guess
that's the time when I'm not depressed." I was smoking a blunt when
you called me. I'm just telling you that shit because it's real. I'm not
trying to blow my shit up.
are you looking to drop "Rebellion"?
In the summer.
I want to drop my shit in July. That means I have to finish my shit this
last interview, you said that the industry wasn't ready for a Wu Tang
album. Is the industry ready now for Wu or your solo album?
Tang is like Ali fighting George Foreman in Zaire. We have somehow become
the underdogs in the game. People don't know that we started a lot of
shit. We're the underdogs now. The kids are idolizing a bunch of other
shit right now and Wu Tang is low on their list. We're going to come in
and shock the world. We're going to knock a lot of people out. We'll come
in and step on their reputation. If they played Wu Tang all day and we
were the type to go under the table and do the payola thing, and do the
106 and Park thing
it's ridiculous. BET is like poison right now.
Imagine if we had BET's support and MTV's support. What if we had VH1
and magazines' support, the way they all support that other bullshit.
It'd be "Wu Tang boom bye aye."
of the beefs going on in New York, why doesn't Wu Tang ever get called
going to call us out. That's the wrong thing to do. When you're the boxing
champion of the world, you don't want to fight the motherfucker that can
lay you out in the first round. You want to be Roy Jones. You want to
dance around and do peacock shit because dudes will fall for that shit.
People fall for the back-flips and moon-walking in the ring. They don't
want to get in the ring with us. We'll head-butt them. Fuck it, take a
point from me, I'll elbow the shit out of them. We're going to come with
a banging-ass album and come back on the strength. We're going to do our
thing without sucking all these nuts to get Hot97 or the Source to do
us a favor. That's why we don't get along with the industry and the industry
doesn't get along with us. If we came through sucking nuts, you'd probably
hear us a little more. There would probably be another Wu Tang album out
and we'd probably all have major deals. If we were those cats
not how we go. Peace. We're not going to be those dudes. We never was.
We came in the game with masks and stocking caps and shit like that on
the cover of our album. We never intended to be whatever you want to call
you think age matters so much in Hip Hop?
to tell you like this. These young motherfuckers aren't getting anything
real like we did. When we were young, growing up, the old school used
to talk to us. They'd be like, "What are you doing out here? It's
two in the morning." That's what needs to happen to these shorties
right now. You can have your Young Jeezy, Lil' Flip, and Postaboy's
all on how you're reaching them. Dudes like us don't buy records. I support
and I like to read credits to see who participated on what. A lot of us
don't buy records though. Right now, it's parents buying records for their
kids, and women buy records. That's why you have all these R&B songs.
They'll say "I'll bust you in the head with the chrome" on a
Mariah Carey remix. He's smuggled the coke across the border! I'm like,
"Wow. I'm trying to give you that same shit on a beat that matches.
I'll leave the R&B for someone else." I want the beat to resemble
what I'm saying. A lot of dudes, you readers reading this shit, listen
to what motherfuckers are saying nowadays. You can not allow dudes to
get by and slide past anymore when motherfuckers are telling you to "shake
that laffy taffy." That's real shit. I'm not worried about anyone
screaming my name out because I'll bury niggas. Shit will be over. That
will be the luck of the draw because I'll give motherfuckers war. If you're
coming to me, you better have scars. Don't step into the ring with wolves.
You're food. I'm waiting for it. If a nigga wants to call my name out,
I'm going to go in on him. I don't even fuck with dudes like that. I got
other shit to talk about than the next man.
the best way to reach the kids in 2006?
is that you have to bounce with them. They want to be on the dance floor
and you can't preach on the dance floor. You can't preach to your child
while he's playing the Playstation. You have to grab a controller and
kick it to him in his language. He'll have a fit if you turn it off because
that's what he loves. You have to tell him what it is and tell him why
you love him. You might hear me on some club shit. I might make some shit
for the club, but you won't hear me singing or any other stupid shit.
I'll be telling niggas how to do shit. I've been there. There might be
someone in the bathroom waiting for you and they're wanting your chain.
So you go in the bathroom because you're drunk and it's a wrap. That's
what I'm telling them. If you're gangster, walk with your chain out. That's
how I talk to my dogs. Motherfuckers are calling shots, priests are raping
boys, there's terrorism, and the president is riding horses. All types
of shit is going on and that's why I rap about what I rap about. That's
why I might take it to the streets and talk about blades on the Escalade.
I have to talk about that shit too.
we talked, New York Hip Hop was in a bad state. Has it gotten better?
worse. Let me explain something to you. New York rappers don't support
New York rappers. Rappers don't support radio stations, radio stations
don't support video stations
We don't love ourselves. That's how
I see it. I'll go to ATL and those niggas are partying. They don't even
let you smoke weed in the clubs like that. There's police in there partying
with you. They're there to have a good time. I went to a party in ATL
and it was good. When I get in a club in New York, as soon as I step to
the bar, there's gunshots. In the deep South, motherfuckers will be in
the club with their shirts off, partying. They don't even have their guns
on them. They'll be out in the car. I love New York. Born and raised in
the Bronx, Kingsbridge. I've stayed in Far Rockaway, Queens. I've been
all over. I've lived in all five boroughs. I'm New York all the way. For
the most part, I'll do a show in New York and maybe 300 people will show
up. But I'll go out of town, and there's 5,000 motherfuckers out there.
I'm not scared
to open up for niggas. I'm down to steal a show however I can get it.
When you see me, you know it's "oh shit, he's ready to air shit out."
There's no negotiations or peace treaties. If I'm in the building, then
you know my goal. If you think someone else is the illest, I'll drop an
accapella in front of him and make it hard for him and his fifty-piece
dance ensemble. I'm up there in a Champion sweatsuit fucking y'all up.
It don't matter. I feel happy with myself and niggas are going to hear
that when they hear my new shit.
do you see Wu Tang going in the future?
going to be the most prolific, legendary motherfuckers in the game. The
album is not going to come right now until signs in the game start changing.
It's like basketball back in the day with their short-shorts and their
thighs showing, now they wear pants down to their calves. That's a sign
of the game changing. Now everyone is trying to take it back to what Biggie
Smalls was doing. We came in with the fatigues and all that, and then
Biggie and 'Pac came dressed up in suits, and that switched the game.
Then when everyone went there, you had to switch it up to Versace and
switching labels. Then Fabolous had the throwbacks with the matching hat
and Shyne had you buying your hat a size bigger. Those are all signs of
the game changing. You're going to notice it. You're either going to get
right or get left. The next ill slang word I say will be next. We made
up "cream" and "polying." We're going to give them
so much new shit that they're not even going to know what we're talking
about, and it will still sound better.
you think of Nas going to Def Jam?
I think Nas
is a smart man from my dealings with the brother when he came through
and showed love on our album. He's a smart man, and I know that whatever
move he made is going to be best for him. I can't even judge that.
As far as
Hip Hop is concerned, I think it's some real champion, big man shit for
Nas and Jay to collaborate. They went to war and somebody had to lose,
and then to get up and shake a man's hands and say, "That was a good
fight. I respect you now." Maybe that's what that is. There is probably
so much respect between the two that they were like, "Let's link
our business up and keep it moving." That's a lot of shit popping
because they're two big names. I can't knock that. That's like Mack 10
going to Cash Money and Snoop going to No Limit. Those were chess moves.
up with House Gang right now?
is still locked up, but he did a lot of stuff before he went in. We're
getting that project ready. We're trying to drop all of that through Wu
Music Group, that's Wu's new label. A lot of things are happening off
the radar with Wu. We're doing a lot of things ourselves instead of acting
like we need motherfuckers to help us and then we become their slaves.
It's like the US helping out foreign countries and then they set up a
post in the neighborhood. We're not looking for allies, we're looking
your main focus on a day-to-day basis right now?
I'm just having a ball watching her grow. That's what I live for nowadays.
I'm not chasing anything anymore. I'm not worried about being the illest
MC or the richest. I'm not out there trying to kill nobody for a dollar,
but I will defend myself for mine, but I'm not a savage in pursuit of
happiness. I'm loving where I'm at right now. I'm here with my girl and
everything is peace. I don't have any babymama drama and everything is
peace. I'm just in the studio on some 2Pac shit. I just did twenty-eight
songs. I'm just trying to keep the pace up and throw them out there like
Chinese stars. I'm throwing them out on the internet because that seems
to be the way to go for me. Commercial radio won't play me but the internet
seems to be having a ball with your boy.
you want to say to your fans?
Hip Hop again and understand what it is. Go back and listen to old shit
real quick. You don't have to give up what you like these days. If you're
"laffy taffying" it up, don't stop, but go back to Black Moon
and Heltah Skeltah, the whole Duck Down Movement, Kool G. Rap, Big Daddy
Take a trip through some shit. Then listen to what you're listening
to now and ask yourself if that shit is Hip Hop. You have to understand
that Hip Hop came about in a time when there was rock and disco. Country
wasn't even that big at that moment. Now in the mix of Hip Hop, some new
shit is being created and we haven't given it a name away from Hip Hop.
It's not Hip Hop. It's something else. It's like how you had "trip
hop" and we used to call it "house music" or "trance
music." We need a different name for that shit out there because
it's not Hip Hop. You have reggae, salsa, and meringue, and all that is
I grew up on made me want to rhyme. If I grew up in this era and I heard
half of these dudes, it wouldn't inspire me to rhyme. It would inspire
me to feel like I'm better than them, but I wouldn't want to live, breathe,
and shit Hip Hop like the first time I saw "The Message" video.
Dudes aren't influential these days. There hasn't been too many since
us. It's crazy.
niggas to give themselves a Hip Hop test. Go back and listen to some classic
shit, and then come back and listen to the shit out now. It's not Hip
Hop. We may have to really start generalizing that shit as "rap."
There are many different types of Hip Hop. That's just my personal feelings.
Don't worry about me. I'm not the motherfucking rap hater. Do what you
do. I'm just going to come through and make it hard. I'm going to distinguish
a real MC from those frauds.
for the new mixtape. Right now, it's untitled. Look out for Urban Icon
and Movement Marketing with Mike Moves from Landspeed. The new album "Rebellion"
is coming later on in the year, hopefully in the summertime. You know
it's going to have mad Wu Tang family members. I'm trying to make this
shit big and I'm not collaborating with everybody. I'm making original
shit. You may like it and you may not, but you have to respect it because
I'm being me. Everything is original. It's not any shit you've heard before.
Hate it or love it.