brother. I'm hanging.
Brooklyn is close to dropping. How are you feeling?
I'm anxious to see the response of the people and to see if I can quench
the thirst of the thirsty people because they say they want it. I'm anxious
to see if I fulfill the requirement of true hip-hop fans especially looking
for the raw element of Wu-Tang.
of how the people feel, how do you feel about Made in Brooklyn?
I feel great
about it. I feel it's a blessing and an accomplishment. I feel great about
it. At the same time I'm always looking to improve and I'm looking to
see if the people are looking to approve. You have to always look out
for the people because they're the ones who put you where you are.
Bells" was definitely letting people know you were there.
That's just the art-form. That's just the art-form of emceeing right there.
That's how I was feeling on "Ringing Bells."
get the response you wanted from "Ringing Bells?
The few people
who heard it said they liked it. I feel I'm in the right ballpark with
about the speed of light a lot in your rhymes. What does that mean to
energy. Light is knowledge. You can look at light in a lot of different
ways. When you learn something, it's like a light-bulb comes on in your
head. Light is waking up in the morning or waking up at night, whenever
you arrive. You can look at light in a lot of different ways. A lot of
people do take for granted a lot of the simple things in life which is
smell, hearing, taste, sight and touch. A lot of people take a lot of
things in life for granted.
did you want to touch on for Made in Brooklyn?
Made in Brooklyn
also gave me an opportunity to work with a few producers and MC's from
my hood, which is East New York, Bed Stuy. It gave me an opportunity to
work with them and incorporate them. The same way I've been waiting patiently,
they've been waiting patiently for me. These are brothers I've known all
my life. I got to incorporate them into the Made in Brooklyn project.
King" was a dope track. Are you the king of Brooklyn?
No. I look
at myself as a prince since my pops is still around. (laughs) It's really
about what's on the inside that counts. I don't look at myself as any
greater or any less. I look at myself as an individual who gives respect
and commands respect. I try to keep life simple. If you don't aim for
the highest goal that you can possibly strive for, how will you ever get
there if you don't have that type of vision? I don't have to compete for
the crown. I'm cool on that.
you feel about the new generation of Brooklyn MC's like Papoose and Maino
who will carry the torch in the future?
I feel hard
work pays off. That's how I feel. I feel like a person will be as successful
as he or she aims to be. That's how I see it.
interviewed Capone, he talked about how much trouble he had writing full
songs by himself once he went solo. Did you face any challenges like that
Nah. I take
my time with it and I don't try to rush it. Let it be what it is. I didn't
really have any problems. I would rather do a song with someone else than
by myself because I hear so much talent and I want to get better. I would
love to be in a position to work with more people because I love their
voices more than mine. I get it done. It's not a problem making this music.
it getting with Pete Rock for Made in Brooklyn?
that brother for years. You always want to do things with people where
you love their music and respect them as people also. You want to get
around to it and do things and sometimes you do and sometimes you don't.
We got to sit around and it was dope. It's a good thing.
of vibe did MF Doom bring to this album?
with it. I was listening to his shit one day and I heard some shit off
of his shit and was like, "Yo! You're not using that shit? I want
to fuck with that!" That's how crazy his shit was when I heard it.
It was great to work with him also.
as though Doom's beats are perfect for the Wu.
the biggest difference between Made in Brooklyn and No Said Date?
thankful that my family is here supporting me once again. That's a beautiful
thing. Without the support of my family, I'm just one person. It's really
the supporting cast around me that's really making everything what it
is. I might be the spokesperson for it at this present time, but I didn't
try to do anything really different. I might have a few different voices.
I use voices like instruments and I try to incorporate that into the sound.
I didn't try to do anything too different because from the response of
the people, they said they loved No Said Date. I was like, "Well,
if you loved it, I have a lot more where that came from. Let me try a
little bit of this." I got the opportunity to work with brothers
I had been wanting to work with for a long time.
surprised at the overwhelmingly positive response to No Said Date?
I was definitely
surprised. An album to me is like waiting on the birth of a child. You're
nervous until the due date actually hits. That's your baby coming into
the world and you're definitely going to be nervous about how the world
will receive it. When the response is great and people embrace it positively,
it feels good and it makes you want to do it again.
told me he was going to experiment with some southern tracks and go outside
of the dusty samples and hard drums that Wu-Tang is known for. Do you
see yourself going outside the box as well?
that I would do, I would love to be able to bring my element as a part
of it. If I was working with whoever I could be working with, I would
love for that person to know me as an artist, as a creator, as a producer
and as a lover of music, period. I want him to know how it should be because
he knows my style and how I would like it. That's two people that would
be working together. If I'm working with someone, I would obviously admire
their talent whether they were a producer or emcee or whatever. I would
know he would be thinking of me like what I need. It would just be crazy.
I think I could work with anybody really. I think the response would just
be crazy whoever I work with. It could be some crazy shit. I just know
it would be crazy.
get the respect you deserve in the industry and from the fans?
really, I don't even look at it like that. I think if you just make good
music that is respected by the people who love the type of music and respect
what you're doing, I think that's a blessing in itself. You may not be
embraced by everybody. Jesus wasn't embraced by everybody. Everything
is not for everybody, so I'm not really going to look for everybody to
embrace everything. For the people who do embrace it, respect it and love
it and love that hip-hop sound, I guess that's who I'm doing it for.
been around for a minute. Do you primarily cater to your old fans or reach
out for new ones?
As a child,
it's the shit you're parents were playing that got you intrigued to the
music. You might say, "Damn, that was some grown shit." The
grown-ups might have thought we wouldn't have understood what the music
was about, but as children, we were dancing to that shit because we loved
that shit. If it's banging music, it's going to be banging to all ages
and you won't even have to worry about it and catering to a certain age
group. If it's a banger, it's going to be a banger to all ages.
new Wu album been started?
always in the making. Brothers are always doing something together. When
things come together, it's more beautiful when it comes together just
naturally without having to even think about making an album. Let's just
go to the studio and do what we do because we love to be around each other.
Let's just do what we do, go to the studio and make this good music and
have a good time and be amongst each other, enjoy each other's company,
eat some food and play some chess. You'll have ten albums before you fucking
know it. You've got to feel good. You've got to feel good about what you
do. Once you feel good about what you do, all the other shit will fall
into place and you'll have ten albums out before you know it, especially
with eight people coming in and out.
It's a good
thing that the chemistry is still there and we're still working together.
It might take a few weeks for a track to get made, but a hundred games
of chess were played in between, and that's beautiful and it was well-worth
the wait. It wasn't the track, it was about the love of my brother.
the best chess player in the Wu?
to say right now. I had to step away from the ring for awhile. I'm like
a boxer. I whipped so much ass that I have to step away from the sport
so I can enjoy it again. It happens to all great fighters. I think GZA
and RZA might claim to hold the title right now. They're doing their thing,
but anytime I choose to step into the ring, they know what's going to
Nah, I don't
really battle people online. Those brothers might do that, but I want
to see you. Let me see what's going on. I don't know if you're reading
a book while you're playing me or what the fuck is going on. You might
have something else besides you. You might have Bobby Fisher in your corner
online. I don't know who you're fucking with online.
game ready for a Wu-Tang album?
about what the game is ready for. The game is never ready for Wu-Tang
if you think about it. They better get ready because it's coming regardless.
You're not ready for the tsunami but when it's happening, it's happening.
There are some things you can't prepare for.
been a minute since Iron Flag dropped. Has this time off from a Wu-Tang
album been good or bad?
were always classic. Can you tell me how many Wu-Tang albums there are?
misconception because I count about fifty because the participation of
everybody on the album is considered a Wu-Tang album. Look at Made in
Brooklyn, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, Return to the 36 Chambers, Ironman,
Supreme Clientele, or Legend of the Liquid Sword. Those are all Wu-Tang
albums. They may not be labeled Wu-Tang, but they are. Supreme Clientele
may not be a Wu-Tang album, but it's Ghostface's chamber. I count about
affiliates' albums also count?
are like the offspring. Those are the offspring right there. Those are
the seeds. You have to count them because they played a part too. You
have to count Killarmy and Sunz of Man. You know where the tree is but
you also have the fruit. You have to definitely acknowledge it.
you feel when you see other groups biting what Wu-Tang started?
I don't feel
any way. Somebody has to lay the blueprint for someone to follow. Some
MC was doing it way before I thought of grabbing a mic. Someone's sung
way before people today sung. You can't really get into that. The word
"biting" is really an MC term because an MC takes his lyrics
personal and it reflects on who he is as a person. It's his art and you
don't want to hear someone from across town spitting the same thing when
it's not really his. That's where the term "biting" comes from.
But to do something where you really enlighten someone, and that means
you were really able to teach someone, I wouldn't really consider that
biting because that's what we're supposed to be doing anyway. The people
who caught it can better their families. It's like Dr. J can't be mad
at Lebron right now, but we needed Dr. J for there to be a Lebron.
you want people to think when they see a Masta Killa album or does how
people perceive you not matter to you?
To a certain degree, everything matters. I want people to appreciate my
art-form of music and that's enough for me. Those who love that art-from
of music, the songs they might feel, there's something about it. I can't
really put it into words. If you're feeling that and I'm giving you what
you need, then that's therapy. Like I said, I know everything is not for
also working with PETA. How do you feel about fur season coming up?
I don't use
furs, but at the same time, I'm looking at it at a level of how I eat
more so than what I wear. I don't think you should destroy anything just
for the glorification of having it. I think if it's a matter of survival,
I think certain things might be necessary, but to do certain things for
the glorification of luxury, I wouldn't suggest that to anyone or against
anything. My direction with PETA is that I've been a vegetarian for the
past eleven years. That's how I eat.
Little Brother was vegetarian until he had trouble on the road trying
to eat. Have you ever had those problems?
never any problems, man. There's always something to eat. There's always
your plans for the rest of the summer?
work. Hard work. I'm letting people know about Made in Brooklyn and seeing
the response when I'm performing it. I'm enjoying it most of all. When
we did the house parties and block parties, it was enjoyment. People danced
and played music and it was about enjoyment. I'm definitely going to start
enjoying it and see how the people receive it.
started thinking about your next project?
Of course. It never stops. When I see the response to this pot of stew,
I'll know if I have to add a green pepper or a red pepper and we'll take
it from there. (laughs) I want to see how this stew tastes first. I might
not have to add anything or they might say, "Hey, we need a glass
of Kool-Aid with the next meal."
do you have for young MC's?
will never be the problem. Strive to know in this business what you want
from the business so when you get involved in this business, you won't
be twisted by the business. You have to perfect your craft. Study and
understand what you want to do business-wise and I think you will be more
you want to say to everybody?
who read this interview, I hope it's well-taken and it's well-nourishing.
I hope Made in Brooklyn is well-received. You know how we keep it, straight
to the point, direct and righteous. You can go get Made in Brooklyn August