What's going on?
longer are you going to be a free agent?
down real soon. Everything is in motion. Everything is happening real
let out any names?
I ain't going
to put it out there like that until it's final. Once everything is signed,
sealed and delivered, I'll put it out there.
you looking for?
A lot of
different things. I need marketing and promotions, creative control and
a guaranteed release date clause. These other cats are being signed and
put on the shelf. Everything is in motion right now.
put a lot of work in to get to this point. Is it possible that you put
in too much work?
to do that. You have to work harder every day. Are you not going to go
to work tomorrow because you went to work today? You need to go to work
every day. It's the same way with this. It doesn't stop. I'm a workaholic.
I want to work like a slave and eat like a king.
definitely patient waiting for this opportunity.
I dedicated my life to this and at the end of the day, I can't just jump
into anything. Patience is a virtue.
be happy you didn't sign with Select-O-Hits back in the day.
happy I didn't sign a lot of those deals. I'm happy I didn't sign a lot
of that shit. A lot of cats took them and look where they're at.
like you had some decent offers. Was it ever hard turning them down and
worry about that. I'm secure financially and mentally. At the end of the
day, I'm putting out good music and reaping all the benefits. I'm not
in a rush. I'm doing paid shows, getting exposure on MTV, BET and every
magazine. I'm not rushing to sign with anybody. Everything has to be right.
to feel good that you've been so many places without an album. It shows
good music is still appreciated.
A lot of people aren't understanding and realizing that a lot of careers
are built off of hype. My career is built off of strong lyrics. Everything
I've done revolves around me being myself. That's what I bring to the
already touched on this when I interviewed him, but a lot of young rappers
talk about guns, drugs and women. You can go outside of that box and still
I cover everything.
I cover all aspects. You have to be versatile in this shit, man. That's
what you see and hear when you hear a Papoose project, whether it's a
mixtape or record. You hear versatility. I give you the night and the
day. I don't just give you one without the other. I think that's what
keeps me grounded too, that I'm not one-dimensional.
Million Dollar Man mixtape just dropped
dropped yesterday. I was just in Philly yesterday for the Hip-Hop Summit.
There were a lot of good people on the panel like the mayor, Russell Simmons,
Queen Latifah and Queen Pen. We talked about a lot of things like community
empowerment and how to keep your community strong. I really enjoyed that.
it feel being on a panel with Russell Simmons?
It was an
honor. I grew up watching Russell Simmons. It was crazy. But everybody
should go pick up that mixtape, the 1.5 Million-Dollar Man. For promotional
use only, go find it at a bootlegger near you. We're the most consistent
our right now. The Nacirema Dream is coming soon. That's going to make
history, so prepare yourself.
mixtape #15 stack up to the rest of them?
I do is a continuation of my last project if you pay attention. It's only
one level higher on every project.
does it take you to do a mixtape?
take that long. I just make music and at the end of the day, the mixtape
Kayslay started some new things on the mixtapes.
started with the mixtape credits and putting "Produced By."
We format those like albums. My mixtapes are like albums. We're the first
to put credits on mixtape. Nobody was doing that before us. Nobody was
messing with Miami Kaos before us. We started that. Now you see everybody
doing that. I'm not mad at that.
mixtapes out, the big question now is what more can Papoose do?
you cop my album. Then everyone can see what more I can do. Knowledge
is infinite and you never stop learning. If you think I can run out of
music, you're not listening. Everything is a continuation of the last
one. I gave you three "Law Library's" and I gave you "Monopoly,"
then I took it to "Charades" and then to "Chess."
It's all a continuation. At the end of the day, I'm leading you down a
path to the final destination. Just pay attention and listen. I'm not
just talking. I'm true to my art and everything is mapped out and planned
strategically. I just want my fans to pay attention to what I'm saying
and they won't be disappointed.
The Nacirema Dream coming?
is coming out crazy. I feel sorry for cats when my album drops. I feel
sorry for cats. I'm not blowing smoke. A lot of people say that, but I
feel sorry for cats. I'm coming full-blast.
haven't been a lot of highly-anticipated debut albums to drop in a long
time. Is there as much anticipation for The Nacirema Dream as there was
I would never
compare myself to those who came before me because they laid the path
and made it possible for guys like me to come up. I would never compare
myself to them on that type of level. The people are going to be able
to respect what I put out and the album is going to make history.
been as much anticipation for another debut album as there is for your
album right now?
What do you
think? I want to know your opinion.
I would say no. The only other highly-anticipated album in my opinion
you put that in the interview. If I say that, people are going to take
it for granted. You're at HipHopGame and you're interviewing different
MC's every day. You saying it means more than me saying it.
me for the politics of the game. The only thing I did was play ball. I
said, "You know what? However they want to do it, whatever obstacles
they're putting in my way, I'm going to overcome them. I'm not going around
them." They don't want a nigga like me in the game. They don't want
a pure MC in the position I'm in. At the end of the day, I just kept swinging
at whatever obstacles they put in my way. Overdue, I don't really know
what that means. My time is now.
ever been asked by industry execs to dumb down your style?
I'm versatile. When you sign to a label, you should be able to adapt,
change and be versatile. I challenge anyone to pick up one of my mixtapes
and hear the versatility on it.
has Kayslay been to your movement?
He's an underdog like me. He's been doing what he does for the longest
and he doesn't get his just due. He still stays hot. He's been maintaining
all these years and he's still on his grind like me. They try to hold
me back from all angles but they can't.
talked about making you do songs you may not want to do. At what point
did you say you were going to try it regardless of how you felt?
to Kayslay's opinion. I'm open to suggestions. I'm not pig-headed. If
you told me, "Pap, I think you would sound good on this." I
would give you a listen. If I don't really hear it, then I'm not going
to do it, but you can never say I didn't give you the opportunity to present
it. Maybe you're hearing something I'm not hearing.
it in the studio with Slay?
It's a good
experience. He's a workaholic and I'm a workaholic so it's a good combination.
We work real good together.
it feel having Kayslay's full support?
great. Everything happens for a reason. The opportunity that I have is
because Kayslay gives everybody a chance. Everybody knows on Thursday
nights that they have a chance. At the end of the day, are you going to
use that chance? I'm the only one who followed up on it and showed up
at the table when I was supposed to come to the table. I was consistent
with it and I seized the moment. Kayslay gives everybody a chance. Nobody
can take that away from him. I'm just the only dude who capitalized off
you feel spitting "Alphabetical Slaughter" live on the radio
nervous at all. I had that song for years. I had been listening to Hot97
forever and I was finally up there in the flesh. I would never take an
opportunity like that for granted.
the best advice Kayslay's given you?
Not to react
to all the haters out there. There are times I get mad because I've been
on the grind forever and for a nigga to hate on me, how could you do that?
How could you hate on me? You'd have to be stupid. I'm the truth, man.
I'm not a nigga who tripped over a record deal. I didn't have a silver
spoon in my mouth. I came from the bottom. For a nigga to hate on me,
they don't deserve to live. Kayslay helped me to not pay those idiots
research did you do for the "Law Library" songs?
A lot. I
come from the ghetto. I come from the hood and growing up in Bed Stuy,
Brooklyn, you see dudes going to jail every day. The prisons are overcrowded.
What better idea than to do "Law Library"? There are so many
levels of the law and so many ins and outs that dudes need to know.
you be a lawyer if you weren't rapping?
never crossed my mind.
much research do you do for songs versus what you already know just from
reading and observing?
A lot of
the shit is common sense and certain shit you have to do research on.
The majority of the times, it's just common sense that you have to elaborate
on further. We already know a lot of the stuff, sometimes we just don't
realize it. As an MC I bring everything to the table. Nothing is counted
out. Others are so one-dimensional talking about how much they bust their
gun. There is so much other shit going on in the world to talk about.
I think they're crazy for that. I bring everything to the table. I bring
the kitchen sink, my old sneakers and my report card. I bring everything
to the table. I'm just trying to make you understand I leave nothing out.
I'm a fan first and I know what I want to hear.
have songs like "Charades" where you stay on one theme. GZA
is one of the only other MC's to master that form. Is GZA an influence
respect the Wu-Tang Clan and what they laid down. Everybody who came before
me, I respect what they laid down, period. I came up listening to Kool
G. Rap, Rakim, LL, all those dudes.
hip-hop police watching you?
They're watching everybody. They're waiting for us to slip, especially
me. My voice carries and I give you both sides. I give you the positive
and the negative and they don't like that. At the end of the day, of course
they're watching. They're watching everybody to a certain extent. We're
all under the eye in the sky.
talking to anybody on "Russian Roulette"?
what I say to that? If the shoe fits, wear it.
Song," you said, "I dropped 'Get Right' to show these dudes
I can/Do what they do, versatile I am/I showed my fans the wise man can
play the part of the fool/But the fool can't play the part of the wise
man." How do you feel about "Get Right"?
I do a lot
of shows and I travel a lot. I'm in a different city almost every day.
When I do that record at shows, the response is crazy. You can check out
the footage from my shows and see the response from my shows. The response
is crazy. What do you feel about the song?
one of my favorite records but I understand why you did it.
I respect that.
you feel about fans who say you can't do those records without selling
I think they're
crazy. They didn't pay attention from day one. I never came from one element.
I always did a combination of different types of records. I think that
the more you grow, the more they turn their back on you. When you start
to grow, they don't love you anymore. Everybody always loves the underdog
and when you're not the underdog, they don't love you no more. That may
be the reason for that. At the end of the day, I'm versatile and I can
make records about anything.
has Busta Rhymes been to you?
Busta Rhymes is a living legend. He's one of the greatest stage performers
ever and he makes big records. He saw what I bring to the table. I'm the
most feared MC. I'm new to the audience, but MC's know me. A lot of MC's
were scared to do what Busta Rhymes did. It's Streetsweepers/Flipmode.
an official member of Flipmode?
I am. Streetsweepers and Flipmode did a joint venture. It's not like I'm
signing directly to Flipmode. It's a joint venture to make both entities
stronger. Am I an official member of Flipmode? Yes. Am I an official member
of Streetsweepers? Yes. Am I an official member of Violator? Yes. Am I
an official member of Thugacation? Yes. We all formed as one now.
the most valuable advice you've received from Busta?
louder than words and he showed me that you can't stop. How many years
has he been making hit records and how many rappers has he been shutting
down on the stage? I learned from watching him and seeing him come up
in the game.
MC's scared to be shown up by you on a track?
who came before me, I give them the utmost respect. I did a record with
Nas. I did a record with G. Rap. These are dudes who came to the table
and saw what I was doing. I did a record with Sauce Money. I wouldn't
sit here and say the veteran MC's are scared to work with me. I have too
much respect to do that. What I said about me being the most feared MC,
the BET Awards feel different from all the other shows you've done?
yeah it felt different. That was in front of millions of people. Summer
Jam was 52,000, but nothing's bigger than national TV. That was a hell
of an experience. A lot of cats haven't experienced that. That shit was
have a new type of fan discover you who didn't know about you on the mixtapes?
took things to another level. It's just growth. You'd be surprised to
know how many people knew me before that. I was surprised. Honestly, I
can't even walk down the block without signing autographs now. The BET
Awards gave me more exposure, but it's definitely not the birth of my
Nacirema Dream going to happen in 2006?
aim right now. I'm not going to stand here and bullshit you, but that's
definitely our aim.
album almost done?
is done. I have enough material for two or three albums. It's just a matter
of picking and choosing.
your plans for the rest of the summer?
It's a surprise.
I'm not warning these cats. I'm not giving them sneak previews. My mixtape
dropped on their head out of nowhere. They know what's in my blood. I'm
going to keep working.
do you have for young MC's trying to come up in the game today?
Only do it
if it's in your heart. Don't do it because you see Papoose doing it or
someone else. Don't waste your time if it's not in your heart. Don't do
it because you see your favorite rappers doing it. Be consistent with
it. Four freestyles, a video, five DVD's, and four shows is not going
to do it. Don't let anybody tell you what you can and can't do.
you want to say to all your fans?
I'm not just
saying this, but thank you for your support. Look out for my album coming
real soon and Kayslay's album with Greg Street, The Champions. The video
features myself, Shaquille O'Neal, and Bun-B. Look out for the Jeanie
Ortega's video featuring me. Look out for The Nacirema Dream. Thank you
for the support and the MySpace support, and thanks for the support on