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10/2/2006
What's
up?
I'm good,
man. I'm eating some of this good Florida food right now.
We haven't
heard too much from you lately. What's been going on?
I've been
on the run for the past two years. I caught a case. This label left me
stranded because they thought I was going to do fifteen to thirty years.
I beat that shit. I've been working on my music and working on life shit.
It's all good.
Did you
think you couldn't beat the case?
Basically
I gave up as far as the music. As far as the case, I was like, I'm fucked!
Everybody's always talking that gangster shit and then when everybody
gets involved they start telling. They "allegedly" said I did
what I did. I didn't do shit.
Can you
give us some more information on the case?
It was an
attempted murder charge. What happened was some boy got hit and they said
it was me. My little brother was involved. He was my codefendant. These
motherfuckers are running around in the streets talking shit. Basically
it comes down to the dude blowing his own brains out. People were making
up shit. I don't know what dude was but he was 6'4" and was a straight-up
pussy. That's what happened. I was supposed to be in France the day I
got the word. I just got caught out there with that shit.
Are you
100% focused on rap right now?
Oh yeah,
I'm definitely focused. I feel like I've been creating the best music
I've ever made in my life. There are a lot of these dudes who have mentors
who helped them do what they do. I'm going to keep it real. Nobody helped
me do nothing, down to Stretch Armstrong. All he did was give me an opportunity.
Niggas never showed me how to make a song. All I knew how to do was write
music because I love this shit. Everybody's rapping because it's the new
hustle. Niggas can't hustle crack anymore. They think they can say "boom
bip" over a hot beat and become a millionaire. I'm focused.
You go
back with 50 as well. Can you talk about that?
50's a real
nigga. I don't know about all the shit everybody's saying about him snitching.
I don't have anything to do with that. The dude I met, I'm not even going
to disrespect him and call him Curtis, when I met 50, he was a real dude.
The night 50 got shot was the same day all the shit jumped off for me.
I was actually on Hot97 saying I hoped he got better and all that shit.
That dude doesn't owe me shit. A lot of people are saying, "50 could
have grabbed you and Sha Money is a pussy." I don't look at it like
that. I could have done the same thing they did with their grinding. I
had the same opportunity they had. I only met 50 four or five times prior
to him blowing up. He gave me props, saying I was that nigga. We were
at a show with 30,000 motherfuckers and he was giving me props.
Stretch Armstrong
held me back from that. He didn't want me getting with 50's management.
He didn't want me going on tour with them. Whoo Kid and them, I don't
know how they got hooked up. They started promoting 50 real hard. They
were promoting me real hard too. I never had the type of work ethic 50
had. I was never trained for that. They never tried to put us together.
It was just I was hot and he was hot. Clark Kent fucked heavy with us.
I was just too loyal. Somebody told me where loyalty ends, stupidity begins.
I was loyal to Stretch. I never went behind his back. Niggas were putting
$10,000 in my hand and were saying, "Don't tell anybody. Just take
this as our letter of intent." I was in New York every day and I
never say one nigga with guns in the studio besides 50 Cent. None of them.
I never saw nobody else. You know little ol' skinny-ass me, I had big
shit. 50's my man whether or not he's a multimillionaire. Every time 50
sees me he extends his arm. I respect dude. I have made love for dude.
If he wants to sign a nigga, I'm a free agent! I just have to get back
up in my circle. Can't none of these dudes fuck with me. I am the best
and I didn't ask to be.
What's
your relationship with Stretch now?
Fuck Stretch.
The one thing I can do is say, Thank you for the opportunity. He put me
in an opportunity to be talking to you right now. A lot of people wouldn't
have heard of me if it wasn't for Stretch, but Stretch is a slimy motherfucker.
Stretch is real sweet with the bitches and he had a million-dollar budget
I didn't know about. I recorded my first record on my own and I was a
virgin to the music industry. All I did was watch the nigga work the Pro
Tools. This is '98, '99. I learned by watching. I mastered the shit by
watching. When I caught that case, Stretch came and got me but after awhile
those niggas left me for dead. I'm in New York and I'm scrambling. Niggas
were leaving me $10 or $15 to eat and we're talking downtown Manhattan.
You know me, I'm going to go back to doing what I do best. I'm going to
rob the shit out of these motherfuckers walking through the office. I
had my case and I couldn't fight fire with fire.
I was in
a real fucked up position with Stretch. We lived together for a year and
some change. Stretch was already rich. I didn't know that. I didn't know
his parents were rich. I wasn't thinking about the money, to be honest.
I was thinking that he was giving me a chance. I'm loyal. If you extend
your hand, I extend my arm. In this industry, loyalty is a sign of weakness,
like, This nigga will do anything for me. I wasn't no crash dummy but
in all honesty I was to a certain extent. This nigga had beef with Jay-Z
and I lied to Jay-Z to his face. We were about to rumble in Justin's but
I had the thing on me so it wasn't nothing. Whoo Kid and them know I'm
a real nigga. They know how I get down. I done took on beef by myself.
I've walked through Crown Heights by myself. I think Stretch was more
scared of me than had respect for me. He was scared of me. I had love
for Stretch. He broke my heart.
Do you
have to change as a person to win in this game?
Honestly,
how can I change my loyalty? It's in my genetic makeup. I can't sit here
and say, I can't be loyal to anybody anymore. That's not me. I'm going
to be honest. I've never been a shiesty nigga. I don't know how to be
shiesty. I'm trying to learn because it seems you have to do bad to do
good. I can't change my loyalty to people once I know they've done things
for me. I can't change my faith in people but I also just can't sit there
and say, That's my man. You have producers and mixtape DJ's who turn their
back on you because I won't write fast for them. I don't write fast. I
never write fast. I write good music. That's what I think the people deserve.
These motherfuckers put out all this bubblegum shit and flood the block
with garbage. The good shit is going to run out. You can get a stack of
garbage anywhere. I don't want to go off topic but I'm a little discouraged
by this industry because the shit they're signing, it doesn't even make
sense anymore. The music isn't music anymore. I'm on my way. Tell them
I'm on my way. Sorry I'm late, but I'm on my motherfucking way.
Are you
in talks with labels?
These fucking
dickhead-ass A&R's. I'm not even looking for a deal. I'm waiting for
them to come to me. I'm money in the bank. I just have to step my weight
up, that's all. I just have to turn my packs into weight and I'm going
to be supplying everybody. All these A&R's are homies. These record
label execs are so stupid that they can't tell you what's good music.
Dre can tell you hits because he's put out hits, but he can't even tell
you everything that's a hit because that depends on the chemistry between
the artist and the beat. I'm not even looking anymore. If you build it,
they will come. I'm undeniable and I'm that conceited about it. How do
y'all want it? I have yet to be disrespected by one of these rappers and
I can talk shit all day about their moms and their cousins. I don't give
a fuck, you fucking monkeys! I weigh 152 pounds. I know these niggas aren't
cut like me. You're not cut like that. Fucking actors! Do yourself! Fucking
weirdos! Fucking labels! It's not even music anymore. It's like reality
TV. You have all these fake-ass gangsters. Everybody's a fucking gangster.
Gangsters are gentlemen. These guys don't even know how to talk to women.
The A&R's are going on vacation with the artist's money. I don't give
a fuck about none of that shit. Cut me a check. I'm going to get my Caddy
and we're riding. When you're undeniable, the people have no choice.
Even the
mixtape DJ's are trying to be stars. Ask one of them niggas to get on
the tables and cut that shit up. I was with Jazzy Jeff a couple weeks
ago and I said, You should host my mixtape. I honestly don't even want
to put a mixtape out. The game is so watered down. Everybody's doing it.
It's not even hip-hop. These fucking A&R's. We need to fire everybody
and hire the producers as the A&R's. These A&R's are like, He's
from the A? Sign that nigga! I'm waiting on my time. It's coming though.
It's definitely coming. I'm going to sign the best deal coming out of
Philly because half these niggas are nutbuckets where I come from.
What rappers
are messing up the game?
They ain't
rappers! How many of these dudes can go flow for flow with everybody.
No disrespect to the South or the West Coast. Snoop Dogg is a fucking
rapper. He can freestyle. Kurupt has all types of flows. Some of these
dudes just can't rap. You know what the fuck I'm talking about. You're
not stupid. You put some of these niggas on stage and they're not coming
with anything. They don't even know what's wack. They snap their fingers
and have a fucking hit. Here's $10,000. Battle my man right here. Do what
Jay-Z did to Nas. Battle TI for $1 million. Let's see what happens. I'm
only using TI as an example because the nigga has shit.
Niggas are
biting each other's shit like crazy. I remember back in the day if you
said somebody else's rhymes, the battle was over. These niggas are "borrowing"
lines now. Get the fuck out of here! Fucking weirdos! They're disrespecting
shit. That's why there's so much disrespect in the streets too. These
young motherfuckers are shooting everything and the old heads are scared
shitless. You have dudes who have been rapping for fifteen years who can
put words together but they may not have the personality. I have the skills
and the look. Hip-hop is not hip-hop anymore. It's a fashion show/wrestling
match, straight up.
In your
"Hustlin'" freestyle, you said, "I had an invitation to
the millionaire's club years ago." Can you talk about that?
I didn't
know my value. I didn't know I was a star. Lyor Cohen told me I had the
greatest name in rap. Jadakiss was quoting me on the corner and I'm just
sitting there like, Wow. This nigga knows who I am and I look like a retard
because I gave up my corner for this music. I realized you have to give
up a lot of negativity if you want to get something positive. I've never
been upstate but I hear these niggas talking about jail. You dumbasses.
My kids be listening to y'all. When you talk stupid, that's bad for my
kids. You should be saying how you should stay out of jail. People talk,
"In jail I would have fucked your ass." You're a faggot!
They invited
me in the millionaire's club years ago but I wasn't ready. I might have
blown years ago but niggas want you to move at their pace. I have to finish
doing what I'm doing. This is a nigga that went and got a deal on the
strength of me, 50 Cent and Red Café and didn't give me a dollar.
I could have tied his bitch-ass up. I was ten seconds away from doing
that and then I said, It's cool. It's cool. I didn't do it on the strength
of loyalty. Just because he's cool with 50 doesn't scare me. My heart
doesn't pump Kool-Aid. The only things I fear is HIV and God. Other than
that, you bleed like I bleed. If you bleed some green shit, I'm running.
Anything else, I'm gunning. That's how I ride. Skinny boy. Yeah. That's
me.
It's a shame
I lost so much but I'm here. I'm on the phone with you. I could be sitting
in the pen with the rest of these dumbass niggas. My mom called me Bunny
Rabbit. I stacked my money, went to the courts, did my rap thing and got
locked up twice and got out. I'm good right now. I sat with Paul Rosenberg
before he was Big Paul. I got the tape! Don't get it fucked up! I can
talk shit because I know shit, straight the fuck up. Niggas fucked me
over. I'm a real dude. I'm not no snitch-ass nigga but I know I could
have been rich a long time ago. Niggas wanted me to do what they wanted
me to do. Don't keep telling me shit is not hot or that I'm the greatest.
We do one record and we didn't even have the money to put it out. They
had to cut the check. They said, I don't think it's the record. The next
thing you know everybody from China to Egypt is banging the song and they
know who Pretty Ugly is. I lost it but now I'm back.
What's
your relationship with Big Paul today?
I haven't
talked to Paul in the longest. They're all on bullshit. I gave him the
new music. I knew him before they all came up. Paul was already eating
off Eminem. Paul's cool. Paul's fucking cool. If he cut me a check he'd
be even cooler. Theo, their lawyer, told me when I walked into his office
that I was an uncontrolled substance and they already had one with 50.
I said, All right, cool. I'm not sucking anybody's dick to get signed.
I'm not on your dick because you're rich. I told Theo, Don't think I'm
going to go to parties and watch you ball. I know you have enough money
to have me killed, but you have more to lose than I do. Paul's all right.
I'm going to be honest. I don't know what the problem is. I think it's
this Jew Unit shit. They have this white power thing. Obviously they don't
fuck with me like that because niggas haven't gotten at me. I wish them
much success though. Theo was like, Look at my office. I came up! I was
like, You damn sure did. He had the gator couch.
You also
said, "Philly is New York, Cali and Atlanta to the third power."
Can you explain?
It's like
Theo told me, it's an uncontrolled substance. I'm telling you, Philly
is one of the most scatterbrained cities you can go to. Everybody from
the nobody to Jay gets robbed there. That's the difference between a Philly
dude and a lot of other cats. They don't give a fuck. There's still a
lot of snitches and bitches. But if you put yourself where you're in a
position with Pretty Ugly, you're going to go home with some pussy. You
don't want any trouble with Philly niggas. Philly niggas take more chances
than anybody else. Ten people got murdered at one time! That's nothing
that I'm proud of. I said, "I love where I'm from but I don't like
where I live." I know Philly ain't a place where you want to raise
your kids because they'll fuck them in the ass and throw them over the
bridge. Niggas are crazy. The sad thing about it is that 70% of the bodies
that's dropping is from young boys. Dudes respect some of the old heads
but not a lot.
There's Bloods
and Crips shit down here but there's not going to be any recruitment shit
down here. A lot of cats think I'm a Blood because of my brother. I see
why the game got messed up. You have to determine whose side you're on.
In Philly, they switch sides so fast. They switch so fast down in Philly.
They do drugs and shit. I don't do drugs. I smoke weed and drink liquor.
Niggas are on the syrup and all this crazy shit. I used to get dusted
when I was a young boy, but these niggas have lost their mind. I've been
to the most popular cities in the world. I've been to England and all
these places and I don't think anybody's flyer than niggas from Philly.
I'm just being frank. Philly niggas can go anywhere and adapt. A real
Philly nigga says, "Fuck you" and he does him. You just don't
want no trouble in Philly. Niggas will body you so fast. Even though it
can happen anywhere, it's an entirely different level. They're calling
in the Army in Philly right now. They're putting in Marshall Law. They're
starting that shit now in Philly. That's how fucked up that shit is. We're
averaging four bodies a night now. It's fucked up. It's real fucked up.
What do
you think of Philly rappers?
I love Philly
but y'all know Philly rappers are wack. Damn-near 90% of Philly rappers
are wack. Niggas can't copy my style. They thought Roscoe sounded like
me and I fuck with him, but I can't see that similarity that they talk
about. Remember when Jay-Z came out and the way Jay-Z was rapping and
everybody in New York was trying to rap like Jay-Z? In Philly if they're
not trying to rap like Beanie they're trying to rap like Freeway. If Pretty
Ugly gets signed to Aftermath tomorrow, watch them try to copy my style.
They go with who's winning. It's fucked up. Out of ten rappers, nine rappers
sound alike. That's what's different about me. I'm proud of myself for
that. When I rap, I'll put a nigga in a cement hole and his mom and sister
are like, Oooh. I talk that real shit. I don't talk that bubblegum shit.
You have to hear these niggas. They're fucking crazy. These niggas are
corny as shit. Nobody's getting signed from Philly. There are a lot of
niggas that try to rap. I give them their props for trying. I respect
the work ethic of Freeway. I can respect that nigga. A lot of people think
he's the worst rapper but I fuck with Freeway. I don't know Sigel like
that. I do me. Philly's fucked up on the hip-hop tip. I'm going to be
honest. I'm the best thing coming out of Philly right now. Nobody's fucking
with me and I'm not no battle rapper. I'm not shooting no more people
unless I have to. These niggas are going to war on the hip-hop tip and
niggas are really getting bodied over this battle shit. That's how real
this shit is. Just do your homework.
What are
you working on right now?
I'm working
to get this chicken. I need this motherfucking chicken. I know what I
got to do now. At first I didn't. I'm just working. I'm just trying to
acquire a big deal and I can put my family in a nice crib. I need a good
situation, not one of these rinky-dink situations. They can sign me to
Crack Row Records or MC Asshole and watch them become one of the richest
niggas in the game. They know I'm a threat. I'm a threat to their money.
If I make $5 million, I'm putting other niggas on. If I make $5 million,
why wouldn't I help other niggas get out? We make money to get out of
the hood and to make more money. These other niggas get into the game
to turn it into the streets like dickheads. The labels aren't giving your
family money when you die, dickhead. I'm trying to start my own wolfpack.
Niggas already took the name so I want to go song-for-song in a battle.
They're going to lose. I'm not even worried about mixtapes. I'm trying
to make good records to bring that fire back to the game. 50 makes great
fucking songs. He makes great songs and that's why he has the longevity
that he has. I haven't been listening to a lot lately because I've been
trying to stay in my lane. I'm trying to give y'all all of me so I don't
owe you shit. That's where I'm at with it. I'm trying to give everybody
the best I can give them. I'm not trying to write 50 million rhymes in
one day. I'm trying to put out good music. Quality. You can put out a
lot of quantity but is it bullshit? Every time I come to the table with
a song, the fans say, Oh my goodness! These fans want to go to AC and
lose money on these bullshit rappers when they have Michael Jordan sitting
on the bench.
What's
next for you?
I want everybody
to be snapping on these labels. When fans mention rappers, they always
mention me. So-and-so is hot, but there's always Pretty Ugly. I want everybody
to be in love with the fact that your boy is back. Once I get in the game,
a lot of niggas got to go. I'm not afraid of beef. Say something about
me. I'm not afraid to entertain the people. Do the unexpected. Diss me,
talk about my mom, whatever. I want my fans to know I'm coming and I'm
focused. I keep the heat on me but I'm making sure I don't do nothing
stupid with it. I protect myself. And look out for my shit because I'm
coming. It's definitely not going to be regular. I'm supreme. Fuck that.
Put the gold shit in my tank. Yeah. Fuck that. I love all you motherfuckers,
even the niggas who hate me. But I don't think anybody hates me except
for the niggas with money because they know I'm coming to take it. I'm
coming with that crack every time.
What do
you want to say to everybody?
The boy is
back. For the ones who didn't know me, it's five, six years later so you
didn't get a chance to experience the old Pretty Ugly. I'm back. Ask your
cousins and grandparents. One verse and I'm gone. And I didn't even try
hard. I got love for this music. I'm going to give y'all my best. I'm
not going to lie. I've been a slacker at times. My work ethic was not
good because I didn't know what it took. I know what it takes now. Stop
being fooled by all this bubblegum music and put out there. I'm going
to make niggas step their game up. I've been missed and I thank everybody
who's still supporting me. I have a cult following out there. I'm here.
I'm back. I'm a free agent so don't come at me with those low numbers.
Let me get my family cool so I can work for you with my best. And you
A&R's don't even know what the fuck you want. Fucking monkeys. I'm
a fucking gorilla.
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