I’m good. I’m good. I’m just coming from my boy’s wake. Rest In Peace to Rab from Brooklyn, an official OG.
From appearing on Fabolous’ “Brooklyn” to pushing your single “Informer,” you’ve been pretty busy lately. Are you happy with the way things are moving right now?
Oh, yeah. I’m definitely happy. I’m satisfied. I’m feeling good right now. I’m in the greatest shape of my life. Everything is good.
Are you happy with the way fans are responding to your music?
Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Even niggas that’s not into the streets is feeling the shit that I’m spitting because they know the shit is so real and they know that I’m not telling niggas to go out and do knucklehead shit. I’m telling niggas to do that real shit and if this shit ain’t you, don’t act like it’s you. I’m getting the responses. The real niggas are loving me. Even though some real niggas run up on me like, ‘Yo, Murder! Fuck the police! I shoot them too!’ (laughs) That shit is a little crazy, but other than that, I love it, baby!
To the casual listener, your music could sound very reckless and they may not be able to tell the difference between what’s reckless violence and what’s real.
On some of my songs, I might try to kick it with the little homies. Like the “Suicide” record. Flex was going off on that record and he was going crazy with that record in New York. I was talking about an OG that just came home and still thinks the block is his and there were young niggas that were like, ‘Fuck that.’ You had a couple of OGs in that story and another nigga in the song just came home and didn’t want to go back to the street shit, but he had peer pressure. He had people telling him, “Fuck that shit. Let’s ride, nigga.” You have peer pressure in the streets. That’s reality. That stuff really happens.
Then in the second verse you got me telling the little nigga, “We’re about to go kill this motherfucker. But you got to go and do it by yourself.” But he didn’t listen and he brought his man with him. His man wanted to be running his mouth and he didn’t listen and he got caught and talked. That had the little nigga wanting to commit suicide. That just be real shit. So when niggas listen to that shit, they know what it’s about. That’ll have little niggas saying, “I don’t want to be a part of none of that shit.”
You talk about topics that a lot of rappers don’t talk about. What’s the craziest reaction that you’ve gotten from fans of your music?
Niggas be ready to just kill for a nigga, man. And that shit be so crazy, man. It might just be a nigga that I just met. I might have had a conversation with a nigga for two or three minutes and he’s ready to go kill somebody for me. He’s showing me his gun and he’s like, ‘Yo, Murder, I’ll ride for you, nigga. I’ll die for you, son! I love that shit!’ I be feeling it in these niggas’ faces that they’re serious. If I called him and said, “Let’s go right now” and ride around with that nigga and I said, “I don’t like this nigga. Kill him,” that nigga would really do that shit. Like, this shit is powerful, man, if you’re spitting that shit and you’re for real about it. That’s the kind of responses that I get. It be real shit.
And you know bitches just be sucking my dick because I did a song with Jay-Z. They’re like, ‘That’s you? Do you want to go in the bathroom or the hallway?’ (laughs) Wherever!
There’s a lot of benefits to being Uncle Murder.
Definitely. Definitely! (laughs)
Did you ever think “Brooklyn” would bring so much attention and so many blowjobs to you?
Hell yeah! Hova let me know that it was about to go down. He let me know it was for Fab’s album and it was a Brooklyn song and he wanted me on there and when he let me go last on that, I knew it was about to be on. I knew it was about to pop off. I knew it was serious.
How did you approach your verse on “Brooklyn”?
It was a song about Brooklyn, so I had to get real Brooklyn on them. At first, I a little too-too crazy. I was killing everything up like this dude is everywhere. At first I was really talking about how a Brooklyn nigga is and how a Brooklyn nigga will kill everything. That was easy. I had to come with a Brooklyn mentality. That shit wasn’t hard.
If you say you’re killing too many people in a song, I don’t know if I could hear that song without sleeping with the lights on. I never thought I’d hear you say you kill too much in a song.
Of course I can. Motherfuckers are dying everyday in the ‘hood and in the communities. Right now I’m on my way to a wake. This is reality. This is really happening out here. I hear some of my songs and I’m like, ‘Damn, I’m talking about a lot of killing,’ but that’s the life out here. Niggas are really dying out here. That’s the reality of the shit out here. I know it’s too much, but niggas are really dying. That’s the reality that I’m living and that’s what I’m around, so that’s what I’m speaking about. But in the ‘hood, too many motherfuckers are dying, man. And that just be for real.
Do you ever worry about kids getting the wrong message from your music?
Yeah, but that’s why I got shit for the kids. You’re going to hear on my album where I have shit that’s schooling the little homies and shit. I’m schooling the little kids. And niggas have never done it like this. I guarantee you, a nigga has never done this with the shit I got for the kids. When I drop this, you can not say that Uncle Murder doesn’t love the kids. You can not!
The biggest criticism of you is that you’re an extremely violent one-dimensional rapper. But what you’re saying is that’s not the case.
Oh, hell no! I can definitely fuck with the ladies. I got some shit with Lil’ Mo and I got some shit with Jagged Edge. I got shit with Razah. I got shit for the ladies. It’s nothing for me to kill that. I love the ladies. And I got some shit talking to the little homies. I don’t want them growing up living the lifestyle that I lived. I don’t want my son growing up and doing the things that I did. It doesn’t mean that I’m not going to talk about my lifestyle and all that shit, but I do think about the kids. My name is Uncle Murder, so I got some shit talking to the little homies. I don’t want my son and other little homies growing up and doing it either. I can’t change my lifestyle or how I live, but I definitely have some shit for the kids. The streets aren’t what they used to be. You should go to school and get a diploma. You’ll be making more money than the niggas hustling. I school the youth.
Is the industry ready for Uncle Murder?
Hell yeah! I feel like they need someone like me! The numbers that Kanye West and 50 Cent just did for hip-hop is a beautiful thing! It’s a beautiful thing! And we need to keep it going. We don’t need to get sidetracked back to the fake music and the bullshit. You need somebody like Uncle Murder. I bring real music. Yeah, I’m a bad guy, but I got some things too.
Your mixtapes show a very reckless side of you though.
It’s not like that. I’m not just shooting anybody. Everybody knows that I’m not the only nigga that’s had beef. I had beef and I can rap real good. That’s why niggas are feeling that shit. I just have a lot of beef. I have three little brothers that I raised. I have a son. My grandma raised me. I’m a real family-oriented dude. I got a family I’m raising. I’m trying to make sure my little brothers stay in school. They want to do the street shit and I’m trying to make sure they don’t do the street shit. I have a brother that just came home from jail. I’m only 26. It’s not all negative. There’s some positives to Uncle Murder.
Does your family situation keep you more focused on succeeding in the rap game?
Hell yeah! Some niggas are still living with their moms. I’m taking care of my whole family. My mom died when I was 13 and it’s just me and my little brothers. My grandmoms is the only one that stepped up to the plate, like, ‘I’m going to take them.’ This is real. So when I’m out there banging and busting my gun and shooting, I’m doing this to survive. I refuse to let a nigga take me out. My family will starve. I can’t let that shit happen. I got to get it right.
“Bullet Bullet” is one of your biggest hits to date. Do you consider that song to be a street classic?
Hell yeah, even though I was a little surprised by “Bullet Bullet.” I thought “Running the City” was going to be bigger, but they were fucking with that and “Bullet Bullet.” I thought “Running the City” would be bigger than “Bullet Bullet.” “Bullet Bullet” is a street classic. I did 30 or 40 shows off of that on the East Coast. Flex was dropping bombs on it and Enuff was going in on it. Hell yeah it was a classic.
What was it like shooting the video for “Bullet Bullet”?
It was just fun. I was having fun. It was just a good feeling. My man Envy was in there. Shout out to Envy. He’s got an album coming out too. It was just fun shooting that shit.
In more ways than one.
Hell yeah! (laughs) I had a very good time. I had a very good time.
N.O.R.E. shouted out “Bullet Bullet” on his single “Set It Off.” What did that mean to you?
That’s my nigga! You know it’s a street classic when you heard N.O.R.E. say it. That shit felt good when a nigga like that knows about my work. It’s paying off. I’m getting my shot and I’m getting my shine right now. It’s a good feeling, man.
How is your debut album coming?
Oh, the album is crack, man. We’re about three big records away. I’m telling you, the shit we got is a movie. This ain’t no album. This ain’t no rap songs just put together. This shit is really a movie. Every fucking song, you’re going to be able to see and visualize and shit. This is a real movie right here. This ain’t no rap album put together with punchlines. No. This is a life story about the streets with my life included. It’s street life, period. I’m talking to God and the devil. It’s everything. It’s real shit, man.
What’s the title of the album?
We don’t got the name yet. We want it to be real special. But we got Green Lantern on there producing some tracks. We got my boys the Tuneheadz. They did “Running the City.” Those are my boys. That’s the home team right there. I’m fucking with my nigga Bangout. We got some shit on there. We’re grinding. Sha Money XL gave me some shit too. We got some shit. My nigga Chris Styles is on there. We’re working. We’re grinding.
How will your album be different from your mixtapes?
It’s going to be realer. As far as the mixtapes, the mixtapes are just reckless. Don’t let the little ones listen to them. The mixtapes were real reckless about shooting police and killing everybody there. But the album is more level-headed and it’s more serious shit. You get to hear me fucking around more with the ladies. The album is more serious. It’s like a guide on how to stay alive if you’re in the streets wilding out. It’s a Stay Alive book. That’s like what the album is where the mixtapes are more like, ‘Go kill everything.’ That was the Go Kill Everything book. If you’re stressed out, go kill that nigga. The album is more focused. Get your money right and get your mind right and make sure it’s worth it. So if you want to do that street shit, be prepared for this, that and the third.
Will you get the promotion you need and a release date from Def Jam?
It’s all on you. I feel like it’s what you make it and you have to take advantage of the opportunities. I know that it’s all on you and I’m going to give them the music that they want to push. There’s not going to be no reason for them not to push me. I’m going to make them love this shit. They’re going to want to push all of this shit.
What made you want to sign with Def Jam?
It felt good. You know, we had a couple of meetings but when Hov came up and it was time for us to kick it with Hov, it sounded good and it looked good. It’s a Rocafella/Def Jam thing.
You’re also signed to Violator Management. Are you happy with how things are going for you over there?
Hell yeah. They go hard. Chris Lighty is my boy. My other dude is Hood and he’s just as connected to the streets as I am. Some people don’t want to see us but when we have Chris Lighty with us, it makes it a little easier. We got a couple more meetings to where it sounded like there was some money talking.
You’ve been working with Green Lantern for awhile. What does Green bring out of you?
That’s the Evil Genius and I’m Uncle Murder. When I’m working with the Evil Genius, you’re going to get the classics that we’re making. That shit just works out perfect. Working with Green Lantern, that shit just works out perfect.
This summer you were going back and forth with Papoose and Kay Slay. Has that situation calmed down?
It was never serious like that. That was never a serious situation. Certain things got said and I had to clear it up because motherfuckers thought something happened that didn’t happen. That wasn’t no real beef. If that was real beef, somebody would have died already. That shit ain’t nothing serious.
Do you think Kay Slay will play your records in the future?
In the future, anything’s possible. Anything’s possible. Maybe he will play some Uncle Murder records in the future. Anything’s possible. Right now, I’m just doing me. I’m putting out that motherfucking heat. I’m putting out that crack. Anywhere you go in the streets, the buzz is about Uncle Murder. You can’t front on me. If you can make it in New York, you can make it anywhere. Niggas in the South and on the West Coast are fucking with me. It’s that gangster shit. Niggas are loving it, man.
You’ve been grinding for awhile, but your name has blown up a lot in the past year. Are you surprised at all by your recent success?
I expected it once I got the motherfucking opportunity, but it took me by storm. I definitely appreciate the love I get and it feels good. I knew it would be like that if I just kept grinding hard at it. I know real recognize real. I knew if I put real music out there, niggas would fuck with me, man. Real niggas run this shit. We’re the ones that say what’s hot and the bitches are the ones that buy the records. They know about real niggas. I knew once a nigga got promotion, everything would be all gravy.
When will we see the Uncle Murder album?
ASAP. Don’t worry. It’s coming. We need four more records because the main storyline is there already. We just have to make it right. We have some more records to do. We have a classic in the making.
What’s going on with your group the Gettin’ Money Gangstas?
Next up from GMG is IC. That’s my boy from North Carolina. He’s killing North Carolina right now. It’s not all about rap. You have to be official and you have to be family-oriented. GMG is a movement, man.
What’s the next move for Uncle Murder?
Right now we’re just focused on making sure this album is a motherfucking classic. We’re making sure this shit is right. And that’s really it right now. We’re going to keep on banging out these joints. We’re about to put out a GMG mixtape. We’re going to keep on putting this music out, keeping it gangster and keeping it real.
What advice would you offer to other rappers out there?
Just stay true to yourself. Don’t be fronting. If you’re not really on no gangster shit, don’t rhyme about being a gangster. If you’re a player, rhyme about fucking bitches. If you’re a working nigga, rhyme about working the 9-to-5. A lot of niggas are talking about how they’re busting their gun and doing this, that and the third. These niggas don’t even really live like that. Rhyme about who you are, what you live and what you’ve been doing. Maybe you’ve seen things in the ‘hood and seen things that are bad and you can make a couple of songs about that. Don’t just try to be tough because you think that’s the thing to be. Be you. Rap about your lifestyle. Be you. Maybe you can rap about just being nasty and maybe you can get your break. Just be who you are.
What do you want to say to everybody?
Keep supporting Uncle Murder. To all the haters, suck my dick. I’m going to put my dick in their girl’s mouth and I might put my dick in their mom’s mouth and their sister’s. And I might get their grandmoms too, if she’s bad. If she’s 50 and under, because a lot of them are young, I might have to because that’s where the roots started at. I’m just so disrespectful like that. To all my gangsters and all my real motherfuckers out there that love that gangster music, keep on supporting your boy because I’m bringing that real shit. GMG, Brooklyn, East New York, Uncle Murder, it’s going down!